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05-07-2006, 07:25 PM
The 9/11 Truth Movement Is Not Anti-Semitic And Neither is Ray McGovern
By Jon Gold
What I call, "The PNAC Newspaper (The Weekly Standard)" has decided to publish a "hit piece (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/193hqlnl.asp)" against Ray McGovern. They did so because Mr. McGovern, the brave man that he is, confronted (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9961) Donald Rumsfeld on the lies leading up to the Iraq War.
You would think that the Weekly Standard would be compelled to rebut what Mr. McGovern had to say with information showing he was wrong. Because such information doesn't exist, they instead decided to label him a "Conspiracy Theorist", and tried to make him appear anti-semitic by incorrectly referencing his acronym for "O.I.L.", and by referencing certain "Israel/9/11 pamphlets" handed outside of the famous "Downing Street Memo Hearings (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2607)" led by Rep. John Conyers.
They claim that Ray's acronym for "O.I.L." is "O stands "for oil; I for Israel; and L for logistics, logistics being the permanent . . . military bases that the U.S. wants to keep in Iraq."
On 9/11/2004, Mr. McGovern took part in what was called, the "9/11 People's Commission (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7405)" in Washington D.C.
At that Commission, he stated that the acronym for "O.I.L" was "O for oil, I for Israel, and L for the logistical bases necessary to exert (inaudible) military capability in that part of the world."
However, BEFORE he said that, he spoke about the PNAC's dream (http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm) of invading Iraq. He spoke of eliminating any possible threat to the state of Israel. He spoke of the 14 permanent military bases in Iraq, and so on.
I know, because I was there, and he was answering my question (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/911Jon.mov) when he said it.
As it turns out, Mr. McGovern was absolutely right.
In regards to oil, on March 28th, 2001, General Tommy Franks (http://www.house.gov/hasc/openingstatementsandpressreleases/107thcongress/01-03-28franks.html) testified before the House Armed Services Committee. In that testimony he stated:
"The Central Region is of vital interest to the United States. Sixty-eight percent of the world's proven oil reserves are found in the Gulf Region and 43 percent of the world's petroleum exports pass through the Strait of Hormuz. The developing energy sector of the Central Asian States, with the potential for discovery of additional oil reserves, further emphasizes the importance of the Central Region to America and the world."
If oil has nothing to do with the war in Iraq, then why can't we have access to all of the documents pertaining to Dick Cheney's "Energy Task Force (http://www.whitehouse.gov/energy/National-Energy-Policy.pdf)"?
What we have been able to see states:
"America in the year 2001 faces the most serious energy shortage since the oil embargoes of the 1970s."
"Estimates indicate that over the next 20 years, US oil consumption will increase by 33 percent, natural gas consumption by well over 50 percent, and demand for electricity will rise by 45 percent."
"US energy consumption is expected to increase by about 32 percent by 2020. Between 2000 and 2020, US natural gas demand is projected by the Energy Information Administration to increase by more than 50 percent. Yet we produce 39 percent less oil today than we did in 1970, leaving us ever more reliant on foreign suppliers. On our present course, America 20 years from now will import nearly two of every three barrels of oil & a condition of increased dependency on foreign powers that do not always have America's interests at heart."
Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that the Oil Executives (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/15/AR2005111501842_pf.html) lied when they said they didn't meet with Cheney? Those same Oil Executives making a killing recently? Maybe.
In regards to Israel, the President (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3247344,00.html) has promised on multiple occassions (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8055) to defend Israel against her enemies so that's not a hard one to prove. However, since we're also talking about 9/11, I think it's important to point out that the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, Philip Zelikow (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FC31Aa01.html) said, "I'll tell you what I think the real threat and actually has been since 1990 - it's the threat against Israel."
On March 13th of this year John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt from Harvard released a study on the Israeli lobby's influence over American policy decisions. In that study they stated:
[I]"The situation is even more pronounced in the Bush Administration, whose ranks include fervently pro-Israel individuals like Elliot Abrams, John Bolton, Douglas Feith, I. Lewis (“Scooter”) Libby, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, and David Wurmser. As we shall see, these officials consistently pushed for policies favored by Israel and backed by organizations in the Lobby."
As to whether or not Israel had anything to do with 9/11, I don't know. It hasn't been proven. I know that Israel does not control the United States military. However, there is a lot of information (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5867) available out there that would make someone think that maybe they did.
If they did help to make 9/11 happen, does that mean it's ok to hate all Jews? Of course not. If our Government was responsible for 9/11, does that mean we should hate all Americans? Israel is a country, which has a Government, and Judaism is a religion. It is important to remember that the actions of Israel's Government should not reflect on how people think of Jews.
One last thing. In regards to the logistical placement of bases, If we're not staying in Iraq permanently, then why are we building a massive new embassy (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9580) just east of al-Samoud, a former palace of Saddam Hussein's?
I am Jewish. I see people who do try to push anti-semitic views onto the movement, but luckily, the majority of the movement is smarter than that. We are smarter than the Weekly Standard would lead you to believe. We want anyone and everyone who was involved to be held held accountable. Be it Christian, Jew, Neocon or Zionist, we want accountability. Period.
If the 9/11 Truth Movement is anti-semitic, than what am I doing here? Last time I checked, I respected the religion of my family.
Stop trying to paint the 9/11 Truth Movement as anti-semitic because it isn't, and neither is Ray McGovern.
By Jon Gold
What I call, "The PNAC Newspaper (The Weekly Standard)" has decided to publish a "hit piece (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/193hqlnl.asp)" against Ray McGovern. They did so because Mr. McGovern, the brave man that he is, confronted (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9961) Donald Rumsfeld on the lies leading up to the Iraq War.
You would think that the Weekly Standard would be compelled to rebut what Mr. McGovern had to say with information showing he was wrong. Because such information doesn't exist, they instead decided to label him a "Conspiracy Theorist", and tried to make him appear anti-semitic by incorrectly referencing his acronym for "O.I.L.", and by referencing certain "Israel/9/11 pamphlets" handed outside of the famous "Downing Street Memo Hearings (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2607)" led by Rep. John Conyers.
They claim that Ray's acronym for "O.I.L." is "O stands "for oil; I for Israel; and L for logistics, logistics being the permanent . . . military bases that the U.S. wants to keep in Iraq."
On 9/11/2004, Mr. McGovern took part in what was called, the "9/11 People's Commission (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7405)" in Washington D.C.
At that Commission, he stated that the acronym for "O.I.L" was "O for oil, I for Israel, and L for the logistical bases necessary to exert (inaudible) military capability in that part of the world."
However, BEFORE he said that, he spoke about the PNAC's dream (http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm) of invading Iraq. He spoke of eliminating any possible threat to the state of Israel. He spoke of the 14 permanent military bases in Iraq, and so on.
I know, because I was there, and he was answering my question (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/911Jon.mov) when he said it.
As it turns out, Mr. McGovern was absolutely right.
In regards to oil, on March 28th, 2001, General Tommy Franks (http://www.house.gov/hasc/openingstatementsandpressreleases/107thcongress/01-03-28franks.html) testified before the House Armed Services Committee. In that testimony he stated:
"The Central Region is of vital interest to the United States. Sixty-eight percent of the world's proven oil reserves are found in the Gulf Region and 43 percent of the world's petroleum exports pass through the Strait of Hormuz. The developing energy sector of the Central Asian States, with the potential for discovery of additional oil reserves, further emphasizes the importance of the Central Region to America and the world."
If oil has nothing to do with the war in Iraq, then why can't we have access to all of the documents pertaining to Dick Cheney's "Energy Task Force (http://www.whitehouse.gov/energy/National-Energy-Policy.pdf)"?
What we have been able to see states:
"America in the year 2001 faces the most serious energy shortage since the oil embargoes of the 1970s."
"Estimates indicate that over the next 20 years, US oil consumption will increase by 33 percent, natural gas consumption by well over 50 percent, and demand for electricity will rise by 45 percent."
"US energy consumption is expected to increase by about 32 percent by 2020. Between 2000 and 2020, US natural gas demand is projected by the Energy Information Administration to increase by more than 50 percent. Yet we produce 39 percent less oil today than we did in 1970, leaving us ever more reliant on foreign suppliers. On our present course, America 20 years from now will import nearly two of every three barrels of oil & a condition of increased dependency on foreign powers that do not always have America's interests at heart."
Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that the Oil Executives (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/15/AR2005111501842_pf.html) lied when they said they didn't meet with Cheney? Those same Oil Executives making a killing recently? Maybe.
In regards to Israel, the President (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3247344,00.html) has promised on multiple occassions (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8055) to defend Israel against her enemies so that's not a hard one to prove. However, since we're also talking about 9/11, I think it's important to point out that the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, Philip Zelikow (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FC31Aa01.html) said, "I'll tell you what I think the real threat and actually has been since 1990 - it's the threat against Israel."
On March 13th of this year John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt from Harvard released a study on the Israeli lobby's influence over American policy decisions. In that study they stated:
[I]"The situation is even more pronounced in the Bush Administration, whose ranks include fervently pro-Israel individuals like Elliot Abrams, John Bolton, Douglas Feith, I. Lewis (“Scooter”) Libby, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, and David Wurmser. As we shall see, these officials consistently pushed for policies favored by Israel and backed by organizations in the Lobby."
As to whether or not Israel had anything to do with 9/11, I don't know. It hasn't been proven. I know that Israel does not control the United States military. However, there is a lot of information (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5867) available out there that would make someone think that maybe they did.
If they did help to make 9/11 happen, does that mean it's ok to hate all Jews? Of course not. If our Government was responsible for 9/11, does that mean we should hate all Americans? Israel is a country, which has a Government, and Judaism is a religion. It is important to remember that the actions of Israel's Government should not reflect on how people think of Jews.
One last thing. In regards to the logistical placement of bases, If we're not staying in Iraq permanently, then why are we building a massive new embassy (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9580) just east of al-Samoud, a former palace of Saddam Hussein's?
I am Jewish. I see people who do try to push anti-semitic views onto the movement, but luckily, the majority of the movement is smarter than that. We are smarter than the Weekly Standard would lead you to believe. We want anyone and everyone who was involved to be held held accountable. Be it Christian, Jew, Neocon or Zionist, we want accountability. Period.
If the 9/11 Truth Movement is anti-semitic, than what am I doing here? Last time I checked, I respected the religion of my family.
Stop trying to paint the 9/11 Truth Movement as anti-semitic because it isn't, and neither is Ray McGovern.