Gold9472
09-30-2006, 06:51 PM
Pakistan In Review
In the last few weeks, some REALLY interesting information has surfaced regarding the Pakistani ISI's relationship to "terrorism", and Western Intelligence's relationship to the ISI.
I wrote a really big article about this, but I lost it all when dz was paid by the CIA to move the site to a new server (that's a joke).
Anyway, I'm just going to put the important quotes out there for people to see...
President Musharraf of Pakistan said (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69438&postcount=1) the West was responsible for "breeding terrorism in his country by bringing in thousands of mujahideen to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and then leaving Pakistan alone a decade later to face the armed warriors."
Musharraf also restated the supposed threat he received from Richard Armitage. "Help us and breathe in the 21st century along with the international community or be prepared to live in the Stone Age."
I say restated (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69858&postcount=3) because it was first reported by [Deutsche Presse-Agentur (Hamburg), 9/12/2001; LA Weekly, 11/9/2001].
Richard Armitage denied (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69872&postcount=5) ever saying that, "but did not deny the message was a strong one."
Bush (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69883&postcount=9) "denied knowledge of a phone conversation in which the US threatened to attack Pakistan."
A leaked document (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70115&postcount=1) from Britain's Ministry of Defense, "accuses Pakistan's intelligence agency of indirectly supporting terrorist groups including al-Qaida and calls on Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf to disband the agency."
It also specifically accused the ISI of being involved in the 7/7 bombings.
"Indirectly, Pakistan (through the ISI) has been supporting terrorism and extremism _ whether in London on (July 7, 2005) or in Afghanistan or Iraq."
Mumbai (Bombay) police commissioner AN Roy (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70170&postcount=6) said today, "We have solved the 11 July bombings case. The whole attack was planned by Pakistan's ISI and carried out by Lashkar-e-Toiba and their operatives in India."
So the ISI was allegedly involved in both the 7/7 bombings, and the 7/11 bombings as well.
Musharraf (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70127&postcount=4) said "I totally, 200% reject it. I reject it from anybody - MoD or anyone who tells me to dismantle ISI."
There was a lot of "hoo-ha (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69821&postcount=1)" last week, "when a defendant accused Pakistan's intelligence service of threatening his relatives in the South Asian nation after he testified that the spy agency played a role in training Islamic militants."
"We are in uncharted territory here," said Sajjan Gohel of the Asia-Pacific Foundation, a counter-terrorism think tank here. "It hasn't happened before. The ISI has always been a murky organization. There have always been suspicions of a nexus between them, terror groups in Pakistan and Al Qaeda. But here you have a guy from the UK giving testimony that is very relevant because the ISI is supposed to be the key ally in the hunt for [Osama] bin Laden. And it's concerning that a country that is supposed to be an ally in the war on terror is intimidating witnesses, almost 'Godfather'-style."
Paul Thompson reported (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70066&postcount=1), "It is believed in some quarters that while Omar Sheikh was at the LSE he was recruited by the British intelligence agency MI6. It is said that MI6 persuaded him to take an active part in demonstrations against Serbian aggression in Bosnia and even sent him to Kosovo to join the jihad. At some point he probably became a rogue or double agent."
And...
“There are many in (Pakistani President) Musharraf’s government who believe that Saeed Sheikh’s power comes not from the ISI, but from his connections with our own CIA. The theory is that ... Saeed Sheikh was bought and paid for.”
Nafeez Ahmed wrote a huge article (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12678) on the "continuity" of Western/Al-Qaeda relations in the Post-Cold War period.
Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70092&postcount=1), is "accused of authorising British-born Pakistani terrorist Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh to make a $100,000 transfer to Mohamed Atta, the operational chief of the September 11 conspiracy, a charge that met vehement denials."
Wanna bet the ISI is 3 for 3?
Think it's time we asked why the financier of the 9/11 attacks, the head of the ISI, was meeting with Principals in Washington D.C. the week prior to and on the day of 9/11?
And why George W. Bush (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70087&postcount=1) still refers to Pakistan, in light of all of this information, as "Allies" in the "War On Terror?"
I do.
In the last few weeks, some REALLY interesting information has surfaced regarding the Pakistani ISI's relationship to "terrorism", and Western Intelligence's relationship to the ISI.
I wrote a really big article about this, but I lost it all when dz was paid by the CIA to move the site to a new server (that's a joke).
Anyway, I'm just going to put the important quotes out there for people to see...
President Musharraf of Pakistan said (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69438&postcount=1) the West was responsible for "breeding terrorism in his country by bringing in thousands of mujahideen to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and then leaving Pakistan alone a decade later to face the armed warriors."
Musharraf also restated the supposed threat he received from Richard Armitage. "Help us and breathe in the 21st century along with the international community or be prepared to live in the Stone Age."
I say restated (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69858&postcount=3) because it was first reported by [Deutsche Presse-Agentur (Hamburg), 9/12/2001; LA Weekly, 11/9/2001].
Richard Armitage denied (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69872&postcount=5) ever saying that, "but did not deny the message was a strong one."
Bush (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69883&postcount=9) "denied knowledge of a phone conversation in which the US threatened to attack Pakistan."
A leaked document (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70115&postcount=1) from Britain's Ministry of Defense, "accuses Pakistan's intelligence agency of indirectly supporting terrorist groups including al-Qaida and calls on Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf to disband the agency."
It also specifically accused the ISI of being involved in the 7/7 bombings.
"Indirectly, Pakistan (through the ISI) has been supporting terrorism and extremism _ whether in London on (July 7, 2005) or in Afghanistan or Iraq."
Mumbai (Bombay) police commissioner AN Roy (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70170&postcount=6) said today, "We have solved the 11 July bombings case. The whole attack was planned by Pakistan's ISI and carried out by Lashkar-e-Toiba and their operatives in India."
So the ISI was allegedly involved in both the 7/7 bombings, and the 7/11 bombings as well.
Musharraf (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70127&postcount=4) said "I totally, 200% reject it. I reject it from anybody - MoD or anyone who tells me to dismantle ISI."
There was a lot of "hoo-ha (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69821&postcount=1)" last week, "when a defendant accused Pakistan's intelligence service of threatening his relatives in the South Asian nation after he testified that the spy agency played a role in training Islamic militants."
"We are in uncharted territory here," said Sajjan Gohel of the Asia-Pacific Foundation, a counter-terrorism think tank here. "It hasn't happened before. The ISI has always been a murky organization. There have always been suspicions of a nexus between them, terror groups in Pakistan and Al Qaeda. But here you have a guy from the UK giving testimony that is very relevant because the ISI is supposed to be the key ally in the hunt for [Osama] bin Laden. And it's concerning that a country that is supposed to be an ally in the war on terror is intimidating witnesses, almost 'Godfather'-style."
Paul Thompson reported (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70066&postcount=1), "It is believed in some quarters that while Omar Sheikh was at the LSE he was recruited by the British intelligence agency MI6. It is said that MI6 persuaded him to take an active part in demonstrations against Serbian aggression in Bosnia and even sent him to Kosovo to join the jihad. At some point he probably became a rogue or double agent."
And...
“There are many in (Pakistani President) Musharraf’s government who believe that Saeed Sheikh’s power comes not from the ISI, but from his connections with our own CIA. The theory is that ... Saeed Sheikh was bought and paid for.”
Nafeez Ahmed wrote a huge article (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12678) on the "continuity" of Western/Al-Qaeda relations in the Post-Cold War period.
Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70092&postcount=1), is "accused of authorising British-born Pakistani terrorist Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh to make a $100,000 transfer to Mohamed Atta, the operational chief of the September 11 conspiracy, a charge that met vehement denials."
Wanna bet the ISI is 3 for 3?
Think it's time we asked why the financier of the 9/11 attacks, the head of the ISI, was meeting with Principals in Washington D.C. the week prior to and on the day of 9/11?
And why George W. Bush (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70087&postcount=1) still refers to Pakistan, in light of all of this information, as "Allies" in the "War On Terror?"
I do.