when evangelizing, should we give them the whole enchalada or measure our words?

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i get a bit annoyed when 'whistle blowers' take the pathetic stance that 'something is suspcious' whenever it comes to the AIDs issue, flouride, or 9/11, and never more than that.

these people aren't brave. they're only doing the patriotic thing, because as AJ would say, right now it costs them nothing and others have paved the way.

giving people evidence for 9/11 inside job and then refusing to give a motive for fear of the 'conspiracy label' makes you as good as worthless.

i tell people about the illuminati right off the bat. once they accept that, everything fits into that frame and things make more sense.

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Its a bit over the top do you not think? Surely that makes it harder to convince people..
 
I'd say measure your words and explain shit slowly. Like if you wanna teach someone algebra they gotta know basic math first or they won't understand shit.
 
Gold9472 said:
The "Illuminati" is bs, and actually doesn't belong in the 9/11 Truther Forum.
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But the Alex Jones story about the Rockefeller family member telling the filmaker about 9/11 and future planes. That's "Illuminati" is it not?
 
Gold9472 said:
The "Illuminati" is bs, and actually doesn't belong in the 9/11 Truther Forum.
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the illuminati is bigger than 9/11.

if the 'neo-cons' really pulled off 9/11, why didn't they plant WMD's?
 
The illuminati really is quite extreame though. There is so little reason and evidence for it other than its a cool story. Attaching 9/11 to it reduces your story of 9/11 since the illuminari, even to most 9/11 truthers, is seen as false.
 
Neimad9 said:
The illuminati really is quite extreame though. There is so little reason and evidence for it other than its a cool story. Attaching 9/11 to it reduces your story of 9/11 since the illuminari, even to most 9/11 truthers, is seen as false.
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On this we agree one hundred percent. I do believe there is SOME sort of organized takeover going on, but it could be the elks for all I know. I don't saturate my 911 arguments with it, as I feel it detracts from credibility. But to each his/ her own. We have some die hard illuminuses in here...
 
here's the problem with the 'official' 9/11 truther line.

truther: the NEO CONS did 9/11 to further their agenda for global domination!!

skeptic: but Bush is stupid. And besides, why not plant WMD's as well?

truther: ...

it's quite obvious that 9/11 was a master operation, and that the current actions of Bush betray this opening gambit. the only thing that explains it all is the luminatty
 
thumper said:
here's the problem with the 'official' 9/11 truther line.

truther: the NEO CONS did 9/11 to further their agenda for global domination!!

skeptic: but Bush is stupid. And besides, why not plant WMD's as well?

truther: ...

it's quite obvious that 9/11 was a master operation, and that the current actions of Bush betray this opening gambit. the only thing that explains it all is the luminatty
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Very good questions. I only speak about that which I KNOW to be false.. there is plenty I DON'T know.
 
I think the biggest problem with the Illuminati is the word "Illuminati". Saying "Illuminati" gives the sense that it's something huge and something mystical. But if you say 'global elite' and that guy like Bush are second tier guys brought in to do the work, well then that's more of a legitimate converstation right there.

As for why this admin could pull of 9/11 but not plant WMD's; my guess is that they really thought they were there even though they built a bs case to sell to the American people, or, they knew there was only so much they could get away with (maybe both). I mean they can't stage everything.
 
PhilosophyGenius said:
I think the biggest problem with the Illuminati is the word "Illuminati". Saying "Illuminati" gives the sense that it's something huge and something mystical. But if you say 'global elite' and that guy like Bush are second tier guys brought in to do the work, well then that's more of a legitimate converstation right there.

As for why this admin could pull of 9/11 but not plant WMD's; my guess is that they really thought they were there even though they built a bs case to sell to the American people, or, they knew there was only so much they could get away with (maybe both). I mean they can't stage everything.
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Although planting WMD is surely a much easier step than operating 9/11 and keeping it quiet?

Either way I do not find that proof of the Illuminati, all you are saying is that theres a bit of this 9/11 truth that doesnt make sense/we dont know yet so lets explain it with another thoery. There is no evidence of a plot by the Illuminati so using it to support the alternative 9/11 version of events makes you look like you are are trying to hard to make all the puzzle pieces fit and and are coming up with paranoid conspiracy thoerys to do so.

Sorry, But it does weaking 9/11 truth if you bring something like the Illuminati into it.
 
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