Who Is? Archives

[Gold9472]

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Some of you may have noticed that I have started a new "Who Is?" series with regard to 9/11. The reason I started this was because I thought too much emphasis was being placed on the physical aspects of 9/11, and not enough on the background information, the people who may have had something to do with it, the people who participated in the cover-up, the whistleblowers, the family members, the people who represent discrepancies, and so on.

I am using the work compiled by Paul Thompson at www.cooperativeresearch.org (http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/). There are links available to each of the stories sourced on the original website. Unfortunately, it's just too much work to duplicate what Paul and others have done with regard to links. I want to thank them all for their tremendous efforts.

I also want people to know that the information provided is not the "end all/be all" of 9/11. However, it is most definitely an excellent starting point.

Here are the articles archived. As more are produced, they will be added here.

Who Is Jack Abramoff? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17177)
Who Is Elliott Abrams? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17205)
Who Is David Addington? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17154)
Who Is Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16945)
Who Is Omar Al-Bayoumi? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18426)
Who Is Prince Turki Al-Faisal? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17371)
Who Is Ahmed Al-Hada? With Introduction By Kevin Fenton (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18822)
Who Was Nawaf Al-Hamzi? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17260)
Who Was Khalid Almihdhar? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17261)
Who Is Yassin al-Qadi? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16973)
Who Is Michael Anticev? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18845)
Who Is Major Don Arias? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17072)
Who Is General Larry Arnold? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16994)
Who Is Richard Armitage? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17088)
Who Is John Ashcroft? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17051)
Who Was Mohamed Atta? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17063)
Who Is James A. Baker? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17256)
Who Is James Bamford? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17044)
Who Is Prince Bandar? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16927)
Who Is Richard Ben-Veniste? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17164)
Who Is Sandy Berger? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17368)
Who Is Osama Bin Laden? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17042)
Who Is Tony Blair? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17075)
Who Is Joshua Bolten? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17202)
Who Is John R. Bolton? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17269)
Who Is Marion "Spike" Bowman? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17135)
Who Is Kristen Breitweiser? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16948)
Who Is Willie Brown? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17277)
Who Is Zbigniew Brzezinski? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17146)
Who Is Andreas Von Bülow? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17279)
Who Is George H. W. Bush? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17222)
Who Is George W. Bush? With Introduction By 9/11 First Responder John Feal (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17287)
Who Is Lt. Col. Steve Butler? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17296)
Who Is Stephen A. Cambone? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17239)
Who Is Mike Canavan? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17343)
Who Is Andrew Card? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17057)
Who Is Ashton Carter? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17167)
Who Is Dick Cheney? Someone I'd Like To See Tried For The 9/11 Attacks That's Who. (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16933)
Who Is Michael Chertoff? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17198)
Who Is Richard Clarke? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17145)
Who Is Max Cleland? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17151)
Who Is Bill Clinton? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17369)
Who Was Robin Cook? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17281)
Who Is Tom Daschle? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17131)
Who Is Mark Dayton? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17050)
Who Is Rudi Dekkers? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17161)
Who Is Lt. Col. Dawne Deskins? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17054)
Who Was Ray Downey? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17119)
Who Is General Ralph Eberhart? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16902)
Who Is Sibel Edmonds? With Introduction By 9/11 Family Member Lorie Van Auken (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16865)
Who Is Mounir El-Motassadeq? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19749)
Who Is Amr Elgindy? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17273)
Who Is John Farmer? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17064)
Who Is John Feal? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17376)
Who Is Douglas Feith? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17049)
Who Is Fred F. Fielding? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17165)
Who Is Ari Fleischer? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17117)
Who Is Dave Frasca? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16982)
Who Is Louis Freeh? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17056)
Who Is Thomas Frields? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18198)
Who Is John Fulton? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17178)
Who Is Jane Garvey? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17307)
Who Is Margaret Gillespie? With Introduction By Kevin Fenton (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18674)
Who Is Rudy Giuliani? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17043)
Who Is Randy Glass? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16952)
Who Is Jamie Gorelick? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17150)
Who Is Slade Gorton? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17166)
Who Is Porter Goss? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16942)
Who Is Bob Graham? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17061)
Who Is Charles Grassley? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17133)
Who Is Dr. Vernon Grose? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17204)
Who Is Marc Grossman? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17047)
Who Is Stephen J. Hadley? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17173)
Who Is Lee Hamilton? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17149)
Who Was Hani Hanjour? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17382)
Who Is Selig Harrison? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18125)
Who Is Dennis Hastert? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17372)
Who Is Jerome Hauer? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17270)
Who Is Eleanor Hill? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17046)
Who Is Wally Hilliard? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17162)
Who Is Daniel Hopsicker? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18684)
Who Is Steven E. Jones? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17285)
Who Is Hugh Kaufman? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17238)
Who Is Thomas Kean? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17148)
Who Is Bob Kerrey? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17179)
Who Is Zalmay M. Khalilzad? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17183)
Who Is Henry Kissinger? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17073)
Who Is Mindy Kleinberg? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16995)
Who Is Major Eric Kleinsmith? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17237)
Who Is A. B. “Buzzy” Krongard? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17176)
Who Is Dennis Kucinich? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19130)
Who Is Sivan Kurzberg? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19051)
Who Is General Geoffrey Lambert? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17229)
Who Is Patrick Leahy? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17132)
Who Is Michael Ledeen? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17153)
Who Is John F. Lehman? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17180)
Who Is Captain Charles Leidig? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16984)
Who Was Daniel Lewin? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17342)
Who Is I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17223)
Who Is Michael Maltbie? With Introduction By Kevin Fenton (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17240)
Who Is Ellen Mariani? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17280)
Who Is Colonel Robert Marr? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17055)
Who Is Ernest May? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19703)
Who Is Ray McGovern? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17265)
Who Is Cynthia McKinney? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17136)
Who Is Michael Meacher? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17278)
Who Is Admiral Richard Mies? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16989)
Who Is Douglas Miller? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19746)
Who Is Judith Miller? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16957)
Who Is Norman Mineta? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16885)
Who Is Khalid Shaikh Mohammed? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17196)
Who Is Ali Mohamed? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17040)
Who Is Robert Mueller? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php/?t=16991)
Who Is General Richard B. Myers? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16896)
Who Is Laurie Mylroie? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18637)
Who Is Abdelghani Mzoudi? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19747)
Who Is Niaz Naik? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17157)
Who Is Major Kevin Nasypany? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16954)
Who Is Admiral Robert Natter? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17203)
Who Is John Negroponte? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17266)
Who Was John O'Neill? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16835)
Who Is Paul O'Neill? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17200)
Who Was Daniel Pearl? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17078)
Who Is Richard Perle? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16903)
Who Is Scott Phillpott? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17058)
Who Is Thomas Pickard? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17227)
Who Is John S. Pistole? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17060)
Who Is John Poindexter? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17268)
Who Is Colin Powell? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17398)
Who Is Vladimir Putin? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17267)
Who Is Lotfi Raissi? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19748)
Who Is Condoleezza Rice? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16928)
Who Is William Rodriguez? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17272)
Who Is Timothy J. Roemer? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17181)
Who Is Mark Rossini? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19745)
Who Is Karl Rove? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17168)
Who Is Coleen Rowley? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16849)
Who Is Donald Rumsfeld? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16959)
Who Is Kevin Ryan? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17284)
Who Is Sherry Sabol? With Introduction By Kevin Fenton (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18567)
Who Is Luai Sakra? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17092)
Who Is Emad Salem? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16983)
Who Is Harry Samit? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16836)
Who Is David Schippers? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16861)
Who Is General Peter J. Schoomaker? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17258)
Who Is Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16848)
Who Is Ijaz Shah? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17553)
Who Is Abdussattar Shaikh? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16816)
Who Is Mayo Shattuck III? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17175)
Who Is Philip Shenon? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19704)
Who Is Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16992)
Who Is Larry Silverstein? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17118)
Who Is Indira Singh? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17259)
Who Is Ike Skelton? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17274)
Who Is John Skilling? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17283)
Who Is Dietrich Snell? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16867)
Who Is L. Britt Snider? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17172)
Who Is Ali Soufan? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19702)
Who Is Eliot Spitzer? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17201)
Who Is Michael Springmann? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16883)
Who Is Dominick Suter? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17163)
Who Is Ron Suskind? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17271)
Who Is George Tenet? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17052)
Who Is James R. Thompson? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17182)
Who Is Joseph Trento? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19054)
Who Is Lorie Van Auken? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18694)
Who Is John Vincent? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17199)
Who Is Dale Watson? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17228)
Who Is Curt Weldon? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16949)
Who Is Christine Todd Whitman? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17022)
Who Is Ken Williams? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17327)
Who Is Tom Wilshire? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18522)
Who Is General Montague Winfield? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16990)
Who Is Robert Wright? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16845)
Who Is Paul Wolfowitz? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17041)
Who Is James Woolsey? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17255)
Who Is David Wurmser? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17152)
Who Is Dov Zakheim? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17206)
Who Is Pete Zalewski? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17308)
Who Is Mohammed Haydar Zammar? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17174)
Who Is Philip Zelikow? (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16862)

[werther]

thanks for the index.

[simuvac]

Please donate to CooperativeResearch.org:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/donate.jsp

They are the best ally of 9/11 Truth.

[Gold9472]

I alphabetized them.

[Gold9472]

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20071004205534230

[Gold9472]

What do you guys think so far?

[Gold9472]

Hey... have you guys learned anything from this?

[AuGmENTor]

Hey... have you guys learned anything from this?There were a few people I got a bit better background on (ie Donald Rumsfeld). The sheer amount of raw data contained is a bit daunting. Not to mention there are alot of people on that list I have never heard of, and thus don't see the big picture of how they fit in. I have found it moderately useful. Next time I have like 3 days to kill, I promise to read the whole thing.

[Gold9472]

I'm not going to specify how they each fit in. I'm just presenting the facts as they were collected. I'm going to let people come to their own conclusions.

[Gold9472]

I don't see SLC jumping on this list.

[Gold9472]

Al-Hamzi, and Almihdar took me six hours to format.

[Gold9472]

Great idea, both in general approach and in detail. I expect to use this.

Peter Dale Scott

[Gold9472]

:)

[Gold9472]

Heh... I tried to set the limit for text to 1 billion characters to post the Who Is George W. Bush? thread, and it crashed the db. Oh well. This is a BIGGIE.

[puffin3]

First post. I'm not so much interested in WHO these people are but WHERE are they now? Why haven't some 'truthers' got a film crew together and interveiwed some of them? I have NEVER seen one of these 'witnesses' come forward with the 'truth'? Just asking. I simply don't except all these 'witnesses' are refusing to say on film what they saw. That is not logical by anyones standards.

While I'm at it if a plane didn't hit the Pentagon where is the plane and its passengers? I'm sure these questions have been asked many times by people like me who need to have some logical explanations to these questions if I am to believe 9/11 was a put-up job by Bush.

[AuGmENTor]

First post. I'm not so much interested in WHO these people are but WHERE are they now? Why haven't some 'truthers' got a film crew together and interveiwed some of them? I have NEVER seen one of these 'witnesses' come forward with the 'truth'? Just asking. I simply don't except all these 'witnesses' are refusing to say on film what they saw. That is not logical by anyones standards.

While I'm at it if a plane didn't hit the Pentagon where is the plane and its passengers? I'm sure these questions have been asked many times by people like me who need to have some logical explanations to these questions if I am to believe 9/11 was a put-up job by Bush.What? Just go do some reading in the truther forum Puffin. Lots of answers there. The question you are asking is kinda moot, as around here we tend to stick to things we KNOW for a fact as opposed to conjecture. Why isn't the footage from local businesses in the DC area being released? Why did the 911 commission not fulfill it's mandate? Things like that. This is not the Controlled demolition forum. From what I understand, you can find those if you look.

[simuvac]

First post. I'm not so much interested in WHO these people are but WHERE are they now? Why haven't some 'truthers' got a film crew together and interveiwed some of them? I have NEVER seen one of these 'witnesses' come forward with the 'truth'? Just asking. I simply don't except all these 'witnesses' are refusing to say on film what they saw. That is not logical by anyones standards.

While I'm at it if a plane didn't hit the Pentagon where is the plane and its passengers? I'm sure these questions have been asked many times by people like me who need to have some logical explanations to these questions if I am to believe 9/11 was a put-up job by Bush.

A plane did hit the Pentagon.

As for the witnesses, many recorded their observations as part of an oral history compiled by the city of New York. Firefighter testimony, which was not invited for inclusion in the 9/11 Commission Report, was suppressed until August 2005, when a lawsuit by the NY Times and others successfully opened the oral histories to public consumption.

You may read the oral histories here:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html

Professor Graeme MacQueen produced a study of the oral histories here:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf

Many eyewitness accounts are available from popular media reports. See the 9/11 Timeline at www.cooperativeresearch.org.

As for eyewitnesses who refuse to go on camera, I'm sure it has to do with the fact that people get threatened with physical violence for saying things that don't agree with government propaganda.

[puffin3]

I'm asking again WHERE are these people? Why haven't they come forward and agreed to be interviewed on camera. I just can't believe all these people are being threatened or paid off by the government. As far as "facts" are concerned IF they are facts it should be no problem PROVING them should it. I have an open mind but it is still a mind. What about the Popular Mechanics article?
I new to the possibility that 9/11 was a put-up job but I'm not going to believe 'his friend was there and he told my sister who told me' arguements. From what I read on this forum that seems to be the main source of 'the truth'. That doesn't cut it for me.

[Gold9472]

I'm asking again WHERE are these people? Why haven't they come forward and agreed to be interviewed on camera. I just can't believe all these people are being threatened or paid off by the government. As far as "facts" are concerned IF they are facts it should be no problem PROVING them should it. I have an open mind but it is still a mind. What about the Popular Mechanics article?
I new to the possibility that 9/11 was a put-up job but I'm not going to believe 'his friend was there and he told my sister who told me' arguements. From what I read on this forum that seems to be the main source of 'the truth'. That doesn't cut it for me.

You have no idea what you're talking about, and if you're here just to start trouble, you'll be banned. Why don't you tell me about Philip Zelikow? For instance, tell me why that man, OF ALL PEOPLE, deserved to be in charge of the 9/11 Commission.

[AuGmENTor]

Or why they considered even for one SECOND making kissinger the chairman, and why he stepped down?

[AuGmENTor]

I'm asking again WHERE are these people? Why haven't they come forward and agreed to be interviewed on camera. I just can't believe all these people are being threatened or paid off by the government. As far as "facts" are concerned IF they are facts it should be no problem PROVING them should it. I have an open mind but it is still a mind. What about the Popular Mechanics article?
I new to the possibility that 9/11 was a put-up job but I'm not going to believe 'his friend was there and he told my sister who told me' arguements. From what I read on this forum that seems to be the main source of 'the truth'. That doesn't cut it for me.The PM article was taken apart right in this forum. You strike me as a dick, sir. You post in the wrong thread about a topic NO ONE here was debating in the first place. Straighten it out, or I'll make good on Jons threat.

[dMole]

From my observations, AuG strikes me as the kind of gent who certainly isn't lacking in the "oysters" department either...

[AuGmENTor]

From my observations, AuG strikes me as the kind of gent who certainly isn't lacking in the "oysters" department either...Thank you sir!

[Gold9472]

I'm asking again WHERE are these people? Why haven't they come forward and agreed to be interviewed on camera. I just can't believe all these people are being threatened or paid off by the government. As far as "facts" are concerned IF they are facts it should be no problem PROVING them should it. I have an open mind but it is still a mind. What about the Popular Mechanics article?
I new to the possibility that 9/11 was a put-up job but I'm not going to believe 'his friend was there and he told my sister who told me' arguements. From what I read on this forum that seems to be the main source of 'the truth'. That doesn't cut it for me.

Where is who? Name someone.

[AuGmENTor]

He wants to know where the passengers on the PLANES went Jon. You know, that and controlled demolition, the only things this movement is all about.

[Gold9472]

He wants to know where the passengers on the PLANES went Jon. You know, that and controlled demolition, the only things this movement is all about.

Ok. I guess he doesn't know that I'm someone that thinks Flight 77 did hit the Pentagon, and am not 100% convinced that Controlled Demolition took place at the towers or building 7.

[AuGmENTor]

and am not 100% convinced that Controlled Demolition took place at the towers or building 7.Well, about THAT I AM convinced, but it certainly isn't the big guns I drag out when arguing 911.

[Gold9472]

Do you know what makes me distrust the idea of Controlled Demolition the most? The fact that it's the #1 thing the media, and the "debunkers" use against us. I don't understand the science, nor do I understand what should have happened to those buildings. I like Dr. Jones, Willie Rodriguez, and Kevin Ryan. However, liking someone, and understanding what they're saying and being able to comment on it, is two entirely different things. I think they are legitimate which is why I continue to post their information, but I don't KNOW that they are legitimate, and guess what... I'm not exactly a trusting person to begin with (hence the reason I'm here). The question that goes through my head again and again is, "If Controlled Demolition actually did take place at the WTC, would the controlled media mention it, and use it against us as often as they have?" Yes, I know the bigger the lie... blah blah blah...

[Gold9472]

There are reasons to think it might have been Controlled Demolition without referencing the "science." The offices within WTC7 for instance. Some "shady" organizations in there. It looks like a Controlled Demolition. I won't deny that. The fact that NIST has yet to release a report on Building 7. There are other reasons... but you get the gist.

[AuGmENTor]

It's win win for them. Even if it WAS CD, no one would believe it for the reasons stated ad nausium. AND the controlled media COULD use it as they have as our plattform of insanity. I wont argue with you, as you make a good point.

[dMole]

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."

J. Edgar Hoover, former head of the FBI.

I'd love to dive face-first into a big, greasy discussion about the chemistry/metallurgy, det-cord, blasting caps, brisance, demolition waves, blast fronts, melting points, ultimate yield, structural integrity, and those elusive 47 central WTC tower core columns, but I'm probably already waayy too engineer-speak for most people's attention span. :(

I do understand much of the science, but that's a pretty small list of people educated enough, brave enough, and open-minded enough to even have this discussion. Dr. Jones, K. Ryan, Tony Szamboti, [and me, but I might be too "cryptic" for anybody to take me seriously and I guard my privacy like I would a child's safety- famous ain't really my thing] really ought to do lunch sometime.

[YouCrazyDiamond]

Hey... have you guys learned anything from this?
First impression...I'm pretty damn ignorant as to who the players are/were.

Second impression...I'm spoiled by all the excellent efforts that you and other people (at cooperative reserach and other places) put into these projects.

Third impression...As usual, I'm inspired to keep plugging away at leanring about and sharing this knowledge with other people.


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