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Gold9472
05-25-2009, 07:21 AM
Bush's Shocking Biblical Prophecy Emerges: God Wants to "Erase" Mid-East Enemies "Before a New Age Begins"
Bush explained to French Pres. Chirac that the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Mid-East and must be defeated.

http://www.alternet.org/politics/140221

By Clive Anderson, CounterPunch. Posted May 25, 2009.

The revelation this month in GQ Magazine that Donald Rumsfeld as Defense Secretary embellished top-secret wartime memos with quotations from the Bible prompts a question. Why did he believe he could influence President Bush by that means?

The answer may lie in an alarming story about George Bush's Christian millenarian beliefs that has yet to come to light.

In 2003 while lobbying leaders to put together the Coalition of the Willing, President Bush spoke to France's President Jacques Chirac. Bush wove a story about how the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East and how they must be defeated.

In Genesis and Ezekiel Gog and Magog are forces of the Apocalypse who are prophesied to come out of the north and destroy Israel unless stopped. The Book of Revelation took up the Old Testament prophesy:

"And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."

Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac:

"This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins".

The story of the conversation emerged only because the Elyse Palace, baffled by Bush's words, sought advice from Thomas Romer, a professor of theology at the University of Lausanne. Four years later, Romer gave an account in the September 2007 issue of the university's review, Allez savoir. The article apparently went unnoticed, although it was referred to in a French newspaper.

The story has now been confirmed by Chirac himself in a new book, published in France in March, by journalist Jean Claude Maurice. Chirac is said to have been stupefied and disturbed by Bush's invocation of Biblical prophesy to justify the war in Iraq and "wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs".

In the same year he spoke to Chirac, Bush had reportedly said to the Palestinian foreign minister that he was on "a mission from God" in launching the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and was receiving commands from the Lord.

There can be little doubt now that President Bush's reason for launching the war in Iraq was, for him, fundamentally religious. He was driven by his belief that the attack on Saddam's Iraq was the fulfilment of a Biblical prophesy in which he had been chosen to serve as the instrument of the Lord.

Many thousands of Americans and Iraqis have died in the campaign to defeat Gog and Magog. That the US President saw himself as the vehicle of God whose duty was to prevent the Apocalypse can only inflame suspicions across the Middle East that the United States is on a crusade against Islam.

There is a curious coda to this story. While a senior at Yale University George W. Bush was a member of the exclusive and secretive Skull & Bones society. His father, George H.W. Bush had also been a "Bonesman", as indeed had his father. Skull & Bones' initiates are assigned or take on nicknames. And what was George Bush Senior's nickname? "Magog".

simuvac
05-25-2009, 11:27 AM
It's easy to say Bush is incompetent or an alcoholic or in a battle against his father. But people have more trouble coming to terms with the fact that some of their leaders are clinically insane.

Reminds me of another president:


“You know, I turn back to your ancient prophets in the Old Testament and the signs foretelling Armageddon, and I find myself wondering if we’re the generation that’s going to see that come about. I don’t know if you’ve noted any of those prophecies lately, but believe me, they certainly describe the times we’re going through.”


Ronald Reagan to an Israeli lobbyist in 1983




“The president is very keen on the Book of Revelation…. A lot of acid freaks have been taken away for seeing things like that, but the visions normally don’t last for more than 72 hours. Reagan, though, has believed in the coming of these hideous ‘four beasts with six wings and full of eyes within’ for something like 72 years.”


Hunter S. Thompson, 1987

thumper
05-25-2009, 12:06 PM
or how about that the illuminati exists and that there are truly evil ppl out there?

simuvac
05-25-2009, 02:19 PM
or how about that the illuminati exists and that there are truly evil ppl out there?

um, no thanks

i have no use for the language of morality

it presumes a transcendent authority, to which no one has access

speak of "what ought to be," ethics, but not "evil," morality

when presidents ruminate about how god told them to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, i get scared as fuck -- them folks is crazy

thumper
05-25-2009, 03:10 PM
um, no thanks

i have no use for the language of morality

it presumes a transcendent authority, to which no one has access

speak of "what ought to be," ethics, but not "evil," morality

when presidents ruminate about how god told them to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, i get scared as fuck -- them folks is crazyplease break that down for my grade 6 mind

thumper
05-25-2009, 03:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbOzSeu6sJA