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Gold9472
09-03-2009, 10:02 AM
A Good Theory

Jon Gold
9/3/2009

"A good theory explains most of the relevant facts and is not contradicted." - Dr. David Ray Griffin (http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41223&postcount=1)

There are many theories concerning what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001. The reason these theories exist is because those who should be able to answer our questions, REFUSE TO DO SO. That being said, some of the theories promoted are contradicted by information, and a common practice in the movement is to proclaim those contradictions as "fake" or "planted." In my opinion, it is irresponsible to proclaim something "fake" or "planted" simply because it doesn't coincide with what you THINK happened. Especially if there is no information to suggest that something is "fake" or "planted."

The most common theory is that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon. There IS information that exists that contradicts this theory. To my knowledge, here are those contradictions:

1. Two or three documents belonging to the alleged Flight 77 hijackers were found in the rubble (http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091301moqedid#a091301moqedid) at the Pentagon. Some of the alleged hijackers obtained fake IDs (http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a0701almihdharfakeid#a0701almihdh arfakeid), so the IDs are questionable. However, they were nevertheless found.

2. The passengers and crew of Flight 77 were supposedly identified (http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a112101passengerremains#a112101pa ssengerremains) through the use of their DNA. A recent report (http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/08/dna-evidence-faked/) indicates that DNA can be faked, however that does not prove that the DNA used to identify people on 9/11 was fake. Just that the possibility exists.

3. There were pieces of debris (http://web.archive.org/web/20080210152231/http://www.flight77.info/debris.html) found at the Pentagon, and specifically, pieces with the American Airlines logo on them. Picture One (http://web.archive.org/web/20080210152231/http://www.flight77.info/images/pentagon1.jpg), Picture Two (http://web.archive.org/web/20080210152231/http://www.flight77.info/images/Pentagondebris3.jpg), Picture Three (http://web.archive.org/web/20080210152231/http://www.flight77.info/images/Pentagondebris6.jpg), Picture Four (http://web.archive.org/web/20080210152231/http://www.flight77.info/images/Pentagondebris7.jpg), and Picture Five (http://web.archive.org/web/20080210152231/http://www.flight77.info/images/Pentagondebris8.jpg).

4. A book entitled, "Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11 (http://www.amazon.com/Firefight-Inside-Battle-Save-Pentagon/dp/0891419055)" was released that mentions that they "found several airplane seats, piled among the usual mounds of upturned office furniture and random wreckage. A couple of the seats still had bodies belted into them, which had already been found and marked for the FBI." According to a review (http://www.911blogger.com/node/15892) of the book by John Maclean, "the bodies of the five hijackers were found about 100 feet from the point of impact."

5. A multitude of witnesses (http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/05/pentagon-eyewitness-testimony-what.html) saw a plane hit the Pentagon.

Are there questions about what happened at the Pentagon? YOU HAD BETTER BELIEVE IT! However, as I said in my facts piece (http://911truthnews.com/the-facts-speak-for-themselves/), "we have to be smart with how we approach people." There have been so many "hit pieces" over the years that have used the theory that Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon against us. So very many... The "theory" has not helped us, and in my opinion, there are many other better arguments to make that do help this cause.

I am not trying to start a fight. I am just trying to help.

simuvac
09-03-2009, 10:18 PM
#3 frustrates me most. People STILL claim there were no planes parts found....

Kevin Fenton
09-04-2009, 02:12 AM
I'm pretty sure debris related to the passengers (as well as the hijackers) was found there as well. I'll try to dig that up.

Gold9472
09-04-2009, 07:35 AM
Some people fight for the truth, and some people fight for their truth. Guess which group doesn't give a shit about credibility.

Kevin Fenton
09-06-2009, 01:29 AM
Here's a link to a forum I was part of on DU:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x64157

In post number 9 I list found effects of four Flight 77 passengers:

Gold9472
09-06-2009, 07:24 AM
Definitely something I would have added to the article. Thanks Kevin.