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dz
08-16-2005, 02:27 PM
'The Stakes Are Too High for Us to Stop Fighting Now' - An interview with FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds (http://www.antiwar.com/deliso/?articleid=6934)

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SE: The fact that there are no investigations – I will give you an analogy, okay? Say if we decided to have a "war on drugs," but said in the beginning, "right, we're only going to go after the young black guys on the street level." Hey, we already have tens of thousands of them in our jails anyway, why not a few more? But we decided never to go after the middle levels, let alone the top levels…

It's like this with the so-called war on terror. We go for the Attas and Hamdis – but never touch the guys on the top.

CD: You think they [the government] know who they are, the top guys, and where?

SE: Oh yeah, they know.

CD: So why don't they get them?

SE: It's like I told you before – this would upset "certain foreign relations." But it would also expose certain of our elected officials, who have significant connections with high-level drugs- and weapons-smuggling – and thus with the criminal underground, even with the terrorists themselves.
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Gold9472
08-16-2005, 02:51 PM
"SE: You know, I found out the other day that there has been no person in the history of the United States to have had as many gag orders as I have. So when I say I am the most gagged person in history, I mean it. They are terrified of letting me speak, and just why they might be terrified – well, this is what the media should be concentrating on, not that the poor whistleblower got fired."

Gold9472
08-16-2005, 02:54 PM
"SE: Look, if you read the article you will see they mentioned that there were several other officials suspected of crimes. It's interesting because they mentioned the Department of State and the DOD – but they didn't get into it.

CD: And maybe some of these others were more important than Hastert?

SE: Of course they were more important! But they went with the Armenian angle."

Gold9472
08-16-2005, 02:59 PM
"SE: Essentially, there is only one investigation – a very big one, an all-inclusive one. Completely by chance, I, a lowly translator, stumbled over one piece of it.

But I can tell you there are a lot of people involved, a lot of ranking officials, and a lot of illegal activities that include multi-billion-dollar drug-smuggling operations, black-market nuclear sales to terrorists and unsavory regimes, you name it. And of course a lot of people from abroad are involved. It's massive. So to do this investigation, to really do it, they will have to look into everything.

CD: But you can start from anywhere –

SE: That's the beauty of it. You can start from the AIPAC angle. You can start from the Plame case. You can start from my case. They all end up going to the same place, and they revolve around the same nucleus of people. There may be a lot of them, but it is one group. And they are very dangerous for all of us."

Gold9472
08-16-2005, 03:00 PM
"CD: I know you can't name names, but are there any government agencies in particular that you can single out as being more corrupt or more involved with the substance of your allegations?

SE: The Department of State.

CD: What, the most corrupt?

SE: The Department of State is easily the most corrupted of the major government agencies."

Gold9472
08-16-2005, 03:02 PM
"SE: In some cases where the FBI stumbles upon evidence of high-level officials being involved in drug-smuggling, they're even prevented from sharing it with the DEA [Drug Enforcement Agency]. The Department of State just comes in and says, "Leave it."

You know, it's funny, after 9/11, the common criticism was that there was "no information-sharing" between the FBI, CIA, and the like, and this is why the terrorists pulled it off – as if we didn't want to cooperate. No information-sharing? That's the biggest BS I ever heard!"

Gold9472
08-16-2005, 03:04 PM
"SE: You know how they always talk about these Islamic charities funding the terrorists, right?

CD: Yes…

SE: Well, and this is not a firm statistic, just a sort of ratio… but these charities are responsible for maybe 10 or 20 percent of al-Qaeda's fundraising. So where is the other 80 or 90 percent coming from? People, it's not so difficult!"

Gold9472
08-16-2005, 03:07 PM
"CD: And we're talking about people who are trading in nuclear black-market goods with terrorists and countries like Pakistan?

SE: And anyone else who's willing to pay, for that matter. Zeki Bilmen is Turkish, but of Jewish background. He has a company, Giza Technologies in New Jersey, and everyone who works there is Turkish. He's worked closely with the Israelis. And business – well, business is good."

Gold9472
08-16-2005, 03:09 PM
"CD: Indeed. So finally, even despite the total obstruction you have faced just to be able to get your day in court, do you feel like it has been worthwhile? And that there is something still that can be done to change things?

SE: Yes. I believe, and everyone who is concerned about their safety and security should know it is in their best interests to get this information out and let the chips fall where they may. And since this level of crime is so massive, it doesn't affect only Americans – people in many countries have an interest in this too. The stakes are too high for us to stop fighting now."

Gold9472
08-16-2005, 03:23 PM
I just sent this to www.rawstory.com Hopefully they will post it.

Gold9472
08-16-2005, 04:04 PM
Article II, Section 4 of the United States Constitition.

"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Rese
08-17-2005, 05:15 PM
Sibel is being gagged to protect the tops.

All these articles are conviently posted as comments following the article: Who has the elite allied themselves with to carry out the three terror attacks in America, WTC 1, Oklahoma and 911 and how have they covered it up?

http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/247435.shtml (http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/247435.shtml)

From Sherman Skolnick:THE POPE'S BANKS IN AMERICA,
THE GIANNINI FAMILY,
and THE AMERICAN CIA--PART ONE
by Sherman H. Skolnick

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Sherman Skolnick on Vatican Pope + Jesuits
Posted by: r at Aug 10, 2005 07:06

BALANCED VIEW OF POPES",
Part 2
NAZI Popes
by Sherman H. Skolnick 4/20/04
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Patrick Briley
February 21, 2005
NewsWithViews.com

Michael Chertoff, President Bush’s Homeland Security Director
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FBI Confiscates Personal Property Of Former U.S. Army Corporal Who Blew Whistle On 1976 Government funded "Perfect Terrorist Plan" To Topple Twin Towers
Timothy McNiven says he has been harassed by the FBI and now had DOD card taken without a warrant ever since trying to alert the American people about the government's prior knowledge of 9/11.
July 31, 2005
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FBI Memorandum "George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency" http://jfkmurdersolved.com/images/bushmemo.jpg (http://jfkmurdersolved.com/images/bushmemo.jpg)

We are talking about the period that Bush's friendship with the Cuban exile community in Miami began. It is the period wherein he befriended Felix Rodriguez. Felix Rodriguez is a close associate of Luis Posada Carriles. They ended up working side by side in el Salvador in an operation that eventually became known as the Iran-Contra scandal. This operation was also directed from the White House, when Bush was vice president. Felix reported directly to him. But their history goes much farther back. Remember that Felix Rodriguez was also recruited for Operation 40, some sources say by Bush personally. Whatever the case, and despite the fact that your media don't write about it, Bush hardly makes a secret of his friendship with Felix Rodriguez. They appear together in numerous photographs and there is also correspondence to testify to their warm relation. And just last year, Felix openly campaigned for the election of George W. (It is now known that the CIA financed many of its operations by bring into the USA drugs, at many offshore oil wells)
.................................................. ....... From Wilkpedia:Iran Contra
In January of 1986 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986), the administration approved a plan proposed by McFarlane employee Michael Ledeen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen), whereby an intermediary, rather than Israel, would sell arms to Iran in exchange for the release of the hostages, with proceeds made available to the Contras. At first, the Iranians had refused the weapons from Manucher Ghorbanifar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manucher_Ghorbanifar), the Iranian intermediary, when both Oliver North (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_North) and Ghorbanifar created a 370% markup (WALSH, Lawrence E. "Firewall"). The arms were sold, but Hezbollah proceeded to take more hostages after they had released old ones. Failing to produce any meaningful results, the arms-for-hostages program was cancelled. In February, 1000 TOW missiles were shipped to Iran. From May to November, there were additional shipments of miscellaneous weapons and parts.

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Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of




THE BUSH-CHENEY DRUG EMPIRE



[Lead story in the October 24, 2000 issue of "From The Wilderness"]




by
Michael C. Ruppert


© Copyright 2000, Michael C. Ruppert and "From The Wilderness" PublicationsDRUGS

As described by the Associated Press, during "Iran-Contra" Congressman Dick Cheney of the House Intelligence Committee was a rabid supporter of Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North. This was in spite of the fact that North had lied to Cheney in a private 1986 White House briefing. Oliver North's own diaries and subsequent investigations by the CIA Inspector General have irrevocably tied him directly to cocaine smuggling during the 1980s and the opening of bank accounts for one firm moving four tons of cocaine a month. This, however, did not stop Cheney from actively supporting North's 1994 unsuccessful run for the U.S. Senate from Virginia just a year before he took over the reins at Brown and Root's parent company, Dallas based Halliburton Inc. in 1995.

As the Bush Secretary of Defense during Desert Shield/Desert Storm (1990-91), Cheney also directed special operations involving Kurdish rebels in northern Iran. The Kurds' primary source of income for more than fifty years has been heroin smuggling from Afghanistan and Pakistan through Iran, Iraq and Turkey. Having had some personal experience with Brown and Root I noted carefully when the Los Angeles Times observed that on March 22, 1991 that a group of gunmen burst into the Ankara, Turkey offices of the joint venture, Vinnell, Brown and Root and assassinated retired Air Force Chief Master Sergeant John Gandy.

In March of 1991, tens of thousands of Kurdish refugees, long-time assets of the CIA, were being massacred by Saddam Hussein in the wake of the Gulf War. Saddam, seeking to destroy any hopes of a successful Kurdish revolt, found it easy to kill thousands of the unwanted Kurds who had fled to the Turkish border seeking sanctuary. There, Turkish security forces, trained in part by the Vinnell, Brown and Root partnership, turned thousands of Kurds back into certain death. Today, the Vinnell Corporation (a TRW Company) is, along with the firms MPRI and DynCorp (FTW June, 00) one of the three pre-eminent private mercenary corporations in the world. It is also the dominant entity for the training of security forces throughout the Middle East. Not surprisingly the Turkish border regions in question were the primary transhipment points for heroin, grown in Afghanistan and Pakistan and destined for the markets of Europe.

A confidential source with intelligence experience in the region subsequently told me that the Kurds "got some payback against the folks that used to help them move their drugs." He openly acknowledged that Brown and Root and Vinnell both routinely provided NOC or non-official cover for CIA officers. But I already knew that. ........
De Brie writes, "By allowing capital to flow unchecked from one end of the world to the other, globalization and abandon of sovereignty have together fostered the explosive growth of an outlaw financial marketÉ

"It is a coherent system closely linked to the expansion of modern capitalism and based on an association of three partners: governments, transnational corporations and mafias. Business is business: financial crime is first and foremost a market, thriving and structured, ruled by supply and demand.

"Big business complicity and political laisser faire is the only way that large-scale organized crime can launder and recycle the fabulous proceeds of its activities. And the transnationals need the support of governments and the neutrality of regulatory authorities in order to consolidate their positions, increase their profits, withstand and crush the competition, pull off the "deal of the century" and finance their illicit operations. Politicians are directly involved and their ability to intervene depends on the backing and the funding that keep them in power. This collusion of interests is an essential part of the world economy, the oil that keeps the wheels of capitalism turning."
De Brie writes, "By allowing capital to flow unchecked from one end of the world to the other, globalization and abandon of sovereignty have together fostered the explosive growth of an outlaw financial marketÉ

"It is a coherent system closely linked to the expansion of modern capitalism and based on an association of three partners: governments, transnational corporations and mafias. Business is business: financial crime is first and foremost a market, thriving and structured, ruled by supply and demand.

"Big business complicity and political laisser faire is the only way that large-scale organized crime can launder and recycle the fabulous proceeds of its activities. And the transnationals need the support of governments and the neutrality of regulatory authorities in order to consolidate their positions, increase their profits, withstand and crush the competition, pull off the "deal of the century" and finance their illicit operations. Politicians are directly involved and their ability to intervene depends on the backing and the funding that keep them in power. This collusion of interests is an essential part of the world economy, the oil that keeps the wheels of capitalism turning."

Jesuit Vatican+ Mafia+Secret intelligence agencies around the world


Source: click here (http://www.miaminewtimes.com/issues/2004-09-23/news/metro_print.html)

Rese
08-17-2005, 05:31 PM
All these recent happenings, indictment of Abramoff, Rove leak, DSM, announcement of Lt. Col saying he told the Commission members of the Able Danger report, yet they didn't follow it up, indicate a new 911 investigation is Needed now! So are persecutions of the Criminals who are commiting TREASON!

Gold9472
08-17-2005, 05:34 PM
All these recent happenings, indictment of Abramoff, Rove leak, DSM, announcement of Lt. Col saying he told the Commission members of the Able Danger report, yet they didn't follow it up, indicate a new 911 investigation is Needed now! So are persecutions of the Criminals who are commiting TREASON!

The "Able Danger" report came out to put the focus on Clinton, and take it away from Bush, and I think the reason is, the "9/11 Truth Movement" is growing exponentially.

Rese
08-18-2005, 03:57 AM
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/std/dings/quotestart.gif The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and die.http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/std/dings/quoteend.gif -- former US President Bill Clinton at a Jewish fund-raising dinner
Clinton told the crowd of 350 on Monday that the best solution to the Middle East conflict is an interim settlement "to establish a Palestinian state now." Its creation, he said, must be preceded by a timetable and security assurances for Israel."

I think he realized the terrible injustices done to Palestinians with the use of massive foreign aid to Israel. That aid comes back to US taxpayers in the form of spying by the way of ADL, AIPAC, etc. It also comes back in the form of political bribing of politicians. I think it's time we stop sending massive millions to Israel, because the Zionists in the past have used it to encourage settlements in occupied territories. Yes Sharon is taking the settlers out of Gaza, partly to make up for Israel's selling military weapons to China, and the recent scandals. The PANC connections to Franklin, Abramoff and Micael Leaden are known. They needed a New Pearl Harbor to dominate the Middle East, and have demonized Arabs.

My reading of the works of Michael Ruppert and Rodney Stich indicates that the CIA uses drug moneies to pay for their secret ops around the world to promote American business' globalization. This money also goes into political candidates campaign funds.

Why hasn't the US proposed to Britain to pay compensation to the Palestians the value of the land they lost in creating Israel? At least then those people would have something to rebuild their lives in Gaza.

From the Senate investigation on 911

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf (javascript:ol('http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf');)TOP SECRET 3

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TOP SECRET 1

Access Denied

-- The President’s Daily Brief (PDB): the White House determined, and the DCI and

CIA agreed, that the Joint Inquiry could have no access to the contents of the PDB.

Ultimately, this bar was extended to the point where CIA personnel were not allowed to

be interviewed regarding the simple process by which the PDB is prepared. Although

the Inquiry was inadvertently given access to fragments of some PDB items early on,

this decision limited the Inquiry’s ability to determine systematically what Presidents

Clinton and Bush, and their senior advisors, were being told by the Intelligence

Community agencies, and when, regarding the nature of the threat to the United States

from Usama Bin Ladin and al-Qa’ida. Despite the White House decision, the Joint

Inquiry was advised by Intelligence Community representatives of the content of an

August 2001 PDB item that is discussed in the report. This glimpse into that PDB

indicated the importance of such access [ ]

- [Interview of FBI Informant: On August 8, 2002, the FBI informed the Joint Inquiry

that two of the hijackers had numerous contacts with a long time FBI counterterrorism

informant. The Joint Inquiry made numerous requests to the FBI to interview the

informant in an effort to resolve some of the inconsistencies in the informant's reporting

and to better evaluate how effectively the FBI utilized the informant. The FBI,

supported by the Attorney General and the Administration, refused to make the

informant available for an interview or to serve a Congressional deposition notice and

subpoena on the informant, whose whereabouts were known to the FBI at the time.

The FBI also strongly objected to a Joint Inquiry interview of the informant, citing

concerns about adverse impact on FBI efforts to recruit future informants. The Joint

Inquiry instead agreed with a suggestion by FBI officials that, as an initial step, written

interrogatories be served on the informant. The FBI agreed to deliver those

interrogatories to the informant for a written response. Soon after, the informant

retained an attorney, who advised the Joint Inquiry that the informant would not

respond to the interrogatories. The attorney also advised the Joint Inquiry that, if

subpoenaed, the informant would be unwilling to testify without an immunity

agreement. As a result, while the Joint Inquiry interviewed and received testimony

from FBI personnel familiar with the information provided by the informant, it was

denied the opportunity to discuss that information directly with the informant].

The informants were named by Pat Briely one of which was Melvin Latimore., still walking the streets today.There were warnings given to VIPS to stay away the day of the attacks. FBI didn't go to work in Oklahoma on the day of the bombing. Neither did a judge let his grandchildren go to daycare. Just as there were warnings to VIP people, Willie Brown, Rushdie, Pentagon officers not to fly on 911. Yet with FBI involvement in all three attacks, why weren't these attacks stopped and the public made aware?

Look to Ascroft and Cheney, and President Bush for blocking the information, because it led to his Saudi friends, and Israeli business partners.