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beltman713
08-28-2005, 01:09 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4183166.stm

'Men cleverer than women' claim

Academics in the UK claim their research shows that men are more intelligent than women.

A study to be published later this year in the British Journal of Psychology says that men are on average five points ahead on IQ tests.

Paul Irwing and Professor Richard Lynn claim the difference grows when the highest IQ levels are considered.

Their research was based on IQ tests given to 80,000 people and a further study of 20,000 students.

'Widening gap'

Dr Irwing, a senior lecturer in organisational psychology at Manchester University, told the Today programme on BBC Radio Four the study showed that, up to the age of 14, there was no difference between the IQs of boys and girls.

"But beyond that age and into adulthood there is a difference of five points, which is small but it can have important implications," he said.

"This is against a background of women dramatically overtaking men in educational attainment and making very rapid advances in terms of occupational achievement."

The academics used a test which is said to measure "general cognitive ability" - spatial and verbal ability.

As intelligence scores among the study group rose, the academics say they found a widening gap between the sexes.

There were twice as many men with IQ scores of 125, for example, a level said to correspond with people getting first-class degrees.

At scores of 155, associated with genius, there were 5.5 men for every woman.

Nobel prize-winners

Dr Irwing told The Times the differences "may go some way to explaining the greater numbers of men achieving distinctions of various kinds, such as chess grandmasters, Fields medallists for mathematics, Nobel prize-winners and the like".

The paper will argue that there is evidence that at the same level of IQ, women are able to achieve more than men "possibly because they are more conscientious and better adapted to sustained periods of hard work".

Earlier this year, the president of Harvard University, Lawrence Summers, sparked controversy when he suggested at a seminar that one reason men outperformed women in maths and science was genetics.

Several guests walked out of the conference after hearing the comments.

Dr Summers, who has apologised repeatedly for his remarks, said later that the shortage of senior female academics was partly caused by child-minding duties, which restricted working hours.

Gold9472
08-28-2005, 11:28 AM
Like they even need to report on it.

somebigguy
08-28-2005, 12:42 PM
Well duh.

pcteaser
08-28-2005, 12:57 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4183166.stm

'Men cleverer than women' claim

Academics in the UK claim their research shows that men are more intelligent than women.

A study to be published later this year in the British Journal of Psychology says that men are on average five points ahead on IQ tests.

Paul Irwing and Professor Richard Lynn claim the difference grows when the highest IQ levels are considered.

Their research was based on IQ tests given to 80,000 people and a further study of 20,000 students.

'Widening gap'

Dr Irwing, a senior lecturer in organisational psychology at Manchester University, told the Today programme on BBC Radio Four the study showed that, up to the age of 14, there was no difference between the IQs of boys and girls.

"But beyond that age and into adulthood there is a difference of five points, which is small but it can have important implications," he said.

"This is against a background of women dramatically overtaking men in educational attainment and making very rapid advances in terms of occupational achievement."

The academics used a test which is said to measure "general cognitive ability" - spatial and verbal ability.

As intelligence scores among the study group rose, the academics say they found a widening gap between the sexes.

There were twice as many men with IQ scores of 125, for example, a level said to correspond with people getting first-class degrees.

At scores of 155, associated with genius, there were 5.5 men for every woman.

Nobel prize-winners

Dr Irwing told The Times the differences "may go some way to explaining the greater numbers of men achieving distinctions of various kinds, such as chess grandmasters, Fields medallists for mathematics, Nobel prize-winners and the like".

The paper will argue that there is evidence that at the same level of IQ, women are able to achieve more than men "possibly because they are more conscientious and better adapted to sustained periods of hard work".

Earlier this year, the president of Harvard University, Lawrence Summers, sparked controversy when he suggested at a seminar that one reason men outperformed women in maths and science was genetics.

Several guests walked out of the conference after hearing the comments.

Dr Summers, who has apologised repeatedly for his remarks, said later that the shortage of senior female academics was partly caused by child-minding duties, which restricted working hours.

After thinking about it, I have to agree with the study. Men are smarter in the sense that they put themselves first when it comes to academic achievement, while women will typically put their families first. As such, we do have fewer women who win Nobel Prizes.

And, making an assumption here because this was not my experience, but women aren't raised with the expectation of being super-intelligent.

So, are there more men than women out there who are as smart as I am? I suppose so.

Gold9472
08-28-2005, 12:58 PM
After thinking about it, I have to agree with the study. Men are smarter in the sense that they put themselves first when it comes to academic achievement, while women will typically put their families first. As such, we do have fewer women who win Nobel Prizes.

And, making an assumption here because this was not my experience, but women aren't raised with the expectation of being super-intelligent.

So, are there more men than women out there who are as smart as I am? I suppose so.

Huh?

Gold9472
08-28-2005, 01:02 PM
There's only one person in the world smarter than I am... and HE'S not here right this second.

somebigguy
08-28-2005, 01:04 PM
There's only one person in the world smarter than I am... and HE'S not here right this second.
No, I'm right here.

Gold9472
08-28-2005, 01:05 PM
No, I'm right here.

Nope... sorry my friend... not you.

Gold9472
08-28-2005, 01:09 PM
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somebigguy
08-28-2005, 01:26 PM
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Gold9472
08-28-2005, 01:31 PM
Oh please, that guy is so overrated. Sure 2000 years ago he was doing stuff, he hasn't done shit lately though.

Sure he has... he gave us free will to destroy ourselves.

somebigguy
08-28-2005, 01:43 PM
Sure he has... he gave us free will to destroy ourselves.
Well if he made us in his likeness, then he's a prick.

pcteaser
08-28-2005, 01:43 PM
Gold9472: btw
Gold9472: you're smarter than me

:smiley:

Gold9472
08-28-2005, 01:49 PM
Gold9472: btw
Gold9472: you're smarter than me

:smiley:

That's a low-blow.

pcteaser
08-28-2005, 01:54 PM
That's a low-blow.

Perhaps, but it made me smile :)

'nuthin but love for ya, baby

Gold9472
08-28-2005, 01:56 PM
Perhaps, but it made me smile :)

'nuthin but love for ya, baby

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pcteaser
08-28-2005, 01:58 PM
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roflmao

ok... let me regain my composure and I'll respond

Gold9472
08-28-2005, 01:59 PM
roflmao

ok... let me regain my composure and I'll respond

What, it's not like you didn't say that.

pcteaser
08-28-2005, 02:07 PM
What, it's not like you didn't say that.

What I said was:

pcteaser: I can't believe more men aren't all over you... you're like the hottest gay ever.

Gold9472
08-28-2005, 02:16 PM
What I said was:

pcteaser: I can't believe more men aren't all over you... you're like the hottest gay ever.

Are you sure?

jetsetlemming
08-29-2005, 06:52 PM
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