My Best Experiences In The 9/11 Truth Movement

Gold9472

Gold9472

Tired...
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Here's a letter I got from someone a while ago...

Not posting his name...

Gold,

I am totaly enthralled by the thread you guys having going on on stern.com. I am lurker there, rarly post, but I have read nearly every entry that has been made on this topic. I am conspiracy threory enthusiast and genaraly agree that all is NOT as it appears. I am aware of Skull and Bones, trilats., Knights templor, etc... and truelly feel that there is devious human dealings going on there and have been for centeries. Oliver Stone's movie JFK and the book "High Treason" first got me interested in this subject and taught me to question authority.

Just thought I'd let you know that there are those of us out there like you who are not just lemmings in a conga line to nowhere. At the same time I do believe that it is possible to live a life free from thought that provokes the suffering of the human mind. The teachings of the dalai llama and the Sri Lankan teachings of buddha promote and educate how one needs not to dwell on the evils, how one does not need to solve all of the worlds problems to achieve happiness.

Even so, it is hard to stand by idle and let people like George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld brainwash the people of the world. It is truely unnerving. Am I scared? No, Concerned? yes. I know many many people who will vote for Bush -both "good 'ol boys" and the economical elite alike. If I try to warn them of what you say they'd laugh me off the planet. It is sad. Are we crazy? or are they ingorant?

I do belive there is truth behind your words...

curious, what is your take on the moonlanding?

Here was my response

I appreciate EVERYTHING you just said to me, and I thank you for taking the time to write me.

I tend to stay away from "Conspiracy Theories" that can't be proven with some hard evidence. Documents, News Articles, etc...

Do I believe we landed on the moon? Yes. Think of it this way, in the last 100 years we've become the most technologically advanced society in our entire history as humans.

We've proven that ANYTHING is possible with technology.

BTW...I've been telling my friends the truth for over a year, and I STILL haven't convinced the majority of them.

If you've read my articles, you'll know that people are afraid. I DO NOT blame them.

People like you, who are "aware" of what's going on, shouldn't be afraid to at least tell people something credible. Something to get their minds kick started.

They'll figure it out eventually. Sometimes it just takes a little more time.

Again, thanks for writing me.

All I ask is that you remember my Grandfather's name. Walter Gold. And that you spread the word whenever you get the chance. Even if just a little.

I'm doing this GREATLY because I DO NOT want my little brother to go to the Middle East. Don't you know someone you don't want to see hurt?

Jon

Here's a present for you.

PROOF OF A 9/11 COVERUP
 
This Letter Is The Definition Of Unity
Someone came to my defense against other 9/11 knowledgeables...

Hi Gerard,

Jon likes to concentrate on the facts that have a paper trail, like the put options, the ignored intelligence warnings, the warnings to the CIA not to fly that day, etc. It's not "his" evidence specifically, just the evidence he chooses to pursue.

Jon in no way believes in the official story about 19 arabs, he is well aware that this was pulled off by the government. However, he tries to avoid anything speculative in nature or something that a skeptic can interpret differently and come to different conclusions. He also tries to stay away from any sensational stories that will cause the skeptics to roll their eyes and brand us as wacko conspiracy theorists.

For example, when I first became aware of what really happened that day (thanks to Jon), I used to go around showing people pictures of the pod thinking it was irrefutable evidence. Needless to say, I was easily debunked by people claiming it was the wing fairing, and I looked like a fool. Whether or not there was a pod (I'm not sure anymore), it is easily debunked based on the fact that it "could" be the fairing, the skeptics will always have an argument to fall back on. Jon warned me that this was not the right approach, and he was right.

As for Sibel Edmonds, I think Jon is trying to expose government corruption to open some eyes, as well as to support someone who has been wronged by the government. He is a big supporter of those that stand up against government corruption, he's also a big supporter of Mary Schneider. I guess Sibel's view of the attacks isn't as important as the fact that these people are trying to expose government corruption and have been effectively gagged. Jon is very patriotic and tries to support his fellow Americans.

I often use the Sibel Edmonds case as an example of government corruption as well, and I'm MIHOP all the way. Maybe thats a mistake on my part, but I'm just trying to plant seeds. I actually wasn't aware of her official stance.

I am a fan of your work, I have pulled out your "Conspiracy Theorists guide..." on more than one occasion when it was necessary. Regarding Kyle Hence and Bill Douglas, I'm not familiar with this issue, sorry. I am by no means an expert, I know enough to know the truth, and I use what I know to try to spread the truth a little.
 
Me On the "PSBB"

12-05-2004, 09:51:42 PM

I hope that you people don't base your opinions on the ENTIRE 9/11 Truth Movement based on what a few people have done or said. Including myself.

But I have never LIED about my 9/11 FACTS, and I have NEVER had any intention but to HELP this country.

This is a letter that was posted on the HSBB by luccheese...

"Dear Gold9472, amen to you brother. I admire you for fighting in something you believe in with such great passion. At first when I started to read your posts I like many others thought you were just a crazy person ranting on about a conspiracy theory, I was wrong. So I started to educate myself about these topics at hand with the literature/videos that Gold had presented to the community. After hours of reading/watching I came to my final verdict. I was shocked at the cold hard facts slapping me in the face. I want to thank Gold for taking the time to educate me and many others. People of this board who constanly put him down, I laugh at you. You are fighting a lost cause. Do you really think he would go to such extremes just to get a rise out of you? Honestly come on now. This hate needs to stop. All the power to you Gold9472. Hopefully some day this country will wake from its eternal slumber.

"All propaganda has to be popular and has to adapt its spiritual level to the perception of the least intelligent of those towards whom it intends to direct itself."
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf ("My Struggle"), Vol. I

Let the flames begin."
 
i wasn't your best experience? turning my mind around had no high for you? :( i'm sad now *boohoo*
 
I tend to stay away from "Conspiracy Theories" that can't be proven with some hard evidence. Documents, News Articles, etc...

Thats what I am talking about.

Look I am an old lady, and a history freak. I know FDR allowed the attack on pearl harbor so we could go to war with Germany.
Bush planned to invade Iraq before he got into office, and I don't publish anything I haven't researched.
Isn't it just a coincidence (NOT) that Georges brother was head of security at WTC, and there was a power outage in the south tower the weekend before the attacks?
That means no one was able to be seen coming or going, and all sorts of things could have taken place.
There is nothing that annoys me more than an uninformed opinion.
 
From an observer. This made my night.

"I have listened to your two recent interviews and it was good to hear your opinion and research that you have done about 9/11. So I would just like to say thank you for being an honest person(an American!) and trying to let all the other brainwashed/stubborn? Americans that there is more to 9/11 than what the govt is telling. I know there are many more people like you out there, I visit your website daily and really appreciate it. I think I have told you this before, but I am from Iraq (Assyrian) and I certainly have respect for Americans like you, Thank you.

p.s sorry for my English is not 100%"
 
my best experience was getting positive PM's from a big board that I was eventually kicked off of after I started 100+ page 9-11/conspiracy thread.
 
It's convenient not to talk about the Money Trail.....

http://letters.salon.com/ent/feature/2006/06/27/911_conspiracies/view/index46.html?show=all

(Gold9472: I don't know who this person is.)

Maybe you missed the $100,000 wire transfer Farhad?

Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad, the head of the Pakistani ISI, an organization funded by the CIA, ordered Omar Sheikh to wire transfer $100,000 to Mohammad Atta.

Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad was in Washington D.C. on the morning of 9/11, having breakfast with then Senators Porter Goss, Bob Graham, and John Kyl.

When it was reported by the Wall Street Journal that Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad ordered the wire transfer, he was fired from his position as head of the ISI.

Daniel Pearl, a Wall Street Journal reporter, was believed to have been investigating the wire transfer, and as a result, his head was chopped off, and the main suspect is Omar Sheikh. The man who wire transferred the $100,000 to Mohammad Atta.

Nothing in the 9/11 Report mentions Pakistan's invovlement in the 9/11 attacks, and now there are allegations of bribery between Pakistan and the 9/11 Commission.

The CIA/ISI/Al-Qaeda connection is important in understanding how the U.S. ultimately controls "Al-Qaeda".

It's also a great way of showing the 9/11 Report is incomplete, and that the 9/11 Commission did not give a "Full and Complete Accounting" of the attacks of 9/11. Which was their mandate.

Also keep in mind, Porter Goss, and Bob Graham were in charge of the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11.

Two people who met with one of the culprits of 9/11, on the morning of 9/11, in Washington D.C.

One person who eventually became the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Sound like a conflict of interest to you?

It does to me.

(huge shout out to the irreplaceable Jon Gold)
 
My two cents: I was running in twenty directions until I found this BB. I knew a bunch of this stuff, but it was just flying around. Now it has direction. Because of my posting here, I found out about PA911visibility and promptly joined. (Even though I'm from NY, and thus, a moron). I know more about what goes on in the world now than I EVER have in my 30+ years. I have met Jon Gold and found him to be a very personable, unpretentious person. My life has taken a very positive turn since I found this board. Don't roll your eyes dammit. I was happy before, but I felt hopeless. There was nowhere for my information to be shared, or for me to get another perspective. The point is, this board, and all on it, are my best experience in the 911 truth movement.
 
Snagged from www.911blogger.com:

While searching the posts for something about Specter, I found this old quote from Gold. Amazing. The guy's good.

Couldn't find the specter thing. Anyone know if the supposed legislation that Specter is proposing (which makes it possible to sue Bush for his Executive power abuse) isn't really that at all when you study the text?

The Gold quote:
What would you like me to say? There's evidence of Pakistani ISI involvement. We know that the ISI is an arm of the CIA. We know the CIA is controlled in part by the Executive Branch. We know there are allegations of bribery between Pakistan and the 9/11 Commissioners through a lobbying group. We know Bill Doyle said a source told him that the 28 redacted pages in the Joint Congressional Inquiry talked about U.S. funding to Pakistan. We know there is a damn good chance that Daniel Pearl was investigating the $100,000 wire transfer from Omar Sheikh to Mohammad Atta, ordered by the Pakistani ISI head Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad. We know that Omar Sheikh is the prime suspect in the murder of Daniel Pearl. We know that Porter Goss, Bob Graham, and John Kyl all were meeting with Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad on the morning of September 11th, in Washington D.C., and in Pakistan the weeks before. We know that Pakistan is one of our BESTUS buddies in the "War On Terror". What would you like me to say?
Jon Gold

R | 08.05.06 - 8:19 pm | #
 
Dear Mrs. Van Auken,

This letter might seem a little odd coming out of the blue like this, but to be honest, this is the first time I've had your contact information. I asked a friend for it, and he sent it along. I am very grateful that he did.

The reason I wanted to contact you is because you, Kristen Breitweiser, Mindy Kleinberg, and Patty Casazza, are all heroes to me. I have admired the four of you for several years now.

You may or may not know who I am. I don't know how much you follow the "9/11 Truth Movement". My name is Jon Gold. I have been a part of this "thing" since sometime in 2002. I've devoted my whole life to making sure those who are responsible for the atrocities of that day, are held accountable for their actions.

The thing that motivated me to do this was the four of you. I saw how you had to fight, and I wanted more than anything to help you, and to this day, I still do.

I am very sorry for the loss of your husband. As I told Mr. McIlvaine a few months ago, I can't imagine what it feels like to be someone who knows what's going on, and has that to deal with on top of it.

I recently read about an experience you had at a movie theater, and it made me very angry. To know that you were in pain made me cry. I want the pain to end for you, and all of the other family members, even though I know it never will.

Hopefully, when everything is said and done, you will at least have the satisfaction of knowing that those who were responsible, were also held accountable.

I don't know if you've seen the finished version of "9/11: Press For Truth" yet, but in the credits, you might see a name that you recognize. If the name you see happens to be Jonathan Gold, I want you to know this... it was my pleasure Mrs. Van Auken. Your story deserves to be told, and I would do everything within my power to make that happen.

Thank you for participating in this movie. I believe with all of my heart that this movie has the power to reach everyone we've been unsuccessful with.

Thank you for asking for a new investigation as well. I believe the movement will unify behind the families.

Thank you for everything you have done Mrs. Van Auken. Thank you for your time, your perseverance, and your love of this world. You are an inspiration to us all.

Very Sincerely Yours,

Jon Gold

I sent almost the same letter to Mindy Kleinberg... I guess they showed it to each other. I got a response... :)

Dear Jon,

Thank you so much for your kind words. And thank you for helping us to tell the story - in 9/11 Press for Truth...

Lorie Van Auken and Mindy Kleinberg
 
Thanx man. You made me jerk a tear behind that. What a heartfelt letter. God bless you Jon.
 
Not your bday yet is it? my sons is tomorrow, mine is the twenty fourth, and my Grandad (God rest his soul, whadda awsome guy) was the 23rd. Thought yours was the Monday.
 
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