Does Anyone Have Any Questions?

For those not wanting to give the amount of time it takes to read a 31 page essay an imporant chunk of it follows:


"Phantom Flights?

Before examining physical evidence—our principal task—we should note that many facts about the alleged flights subvert the official account. The Colgan Air flight 5930 Portland-Logan is riddled with questions and AA Flights 11 and 77 were not scheduled that day. Official BTS data are meticulously kept because of liability issues. The two American Airlines Boeing 767s in question—tail numbers N334AA and N644AA—were deregistered January 14, 2002, but without evidence they were involved in the alleged flights. Mohammed Atta supposedly left a rental car at Portland International and absurdly left a second car full of incriminating evidence at Logan, in other words, evidence was planted/fabricated. And was Gate 26 or 32 used for the unscheduled flight 11? The two United Airlines aircraft that allegedly crashed that day—tail number N612UA for Flight 175 and N591UA for Flight 93—were deregistered four years later on September 28, 2005, despite a requirement that destroyed aircraft be deregistered within 24 hours.

Further fueling suspicion, all four cross-country flights had improbably light loads with most seats vacant (approximately 52-86% empty) while the airlines, government and media never produced credible passenger manifests, a routine matter, and all inexplicably lacked Arab names. Mainstream media have reported five to nine alleged hijackers alive while ongoing searches of birth, death and marriage records suggest some passenger names were fake. Families of air crash victims remain silent, suspicious behavior while government lies and spins, and families of ground zero victims are outspoken. Searches thus far fail to show hull insurance paid on the four jetliners. Then we have missing surveillance video tapes, an incredible string of airport security/screening failures, flights disappearing from conventional radar, missing flight data and cockpit voice recorders, gagged flight controllers and firefighters, physically impossible cell phone calls with fake dialogue (“I see water and buildings. Oh my God! Oh my God!” “Hello, mom. This is Mark Bingham”), not to mention the technical impossibility of the purported Arabs piloting the planes as advertised. Little if anything checks out in the official account about the alleged flights. Corporate media steer a wide berth from these problems in favor of canonizing the official conspiracy theory."
 
Gold9472 said:
Not in the least.
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Then clearly you aren't in deep enough!

Just playin'. Keep your eyes open, bro. This conversation is being monitored, I guarantee.
 
Ignatius Riley said:
Then clearly you aren't in deep enough!

Just playin'. Keep your eyes open, bro. This conversation is being monitored, I guarantee.
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No, I just don't fear my Government anymore.
 
Gold has nothing to fear, we all know he's on the CIA payroll.

They keep him in drum-kits and bongos.
 
CIA you say? So Gold, you hiring?

Anyway, a recent timeline by Team8plus.org ( http://www.team8plus.org/the-movement/radar/Radar.htm ) provides valuable evidence backing my dysfunctional hypothesis:

  1. 7: 59 Flight 11 takes off from Logan airport
  2. 8:14 United Airlines Flight 175 takes off from Logan airport
  3. 8:14 Hijacking of Flight 11 apparently begins. It may have been a staged hijacking or part of a terror drill.
  4. 8:21 Flight 11 switches off its transponder at the edge of an area that just happens to have no primary radar coverage. Two "drone" flights (remote controlled plane bombs) fly in from this no-radar zone and creep into the radar shadow above Flight 11. These drone flights may have been using Operation Vigilant Guardian as additional cover. Operation Vigilant Guardian was a huge military exercise taking place that week featuring Russian planes flying over the Arctic Circle to attack America. Meanwhile, Flight 11 begins to reduce its altitude.
  5. 8:27 Flight 11 appears to turn very close to Schenectady county airport. What really happens is that Flight 11 flies down towards the Mohawk river valley towards Griffiss Air Base (6) and the two drones, still flying in formation, continue down the Hudson river towards New York City.
  6. Flight 11 either lands at Griffiss Air Base (home of NEADS, the North Eastern base for NORAD) or flies on to be shot down or destroyed over the great lakes.
  7. 8:39-8:43 At this point, Drone Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175 come very close together. The remaining drone peels off from formation to rendezvous with Flight 175 over Stewart International airport.
  8. 8:46:40 Flight 11(drone) crashes into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.
  9. 8:42 Just before the crash, Flight 93 is taking off from Newark, around 42 minutes late.
  10. 8:47 Flight 175 switches off its transponder, right at the same time that Flight 93 makes a little unexplained detour to meet it. Both these planes are in the same place at the same time and Flight 175 disappears. Coincidence? No, Flight 175 flies West in Flight 93's radar shadow. Flight 175 goes on to land, possibly at Cleveland or Pittsburgh airport under cover of diversion. 8:51 Flight 175 deviates from its assigned cruising altitude.
  11. (Time not available) Air traffic controllers spot an "intruder over Allentown" (Washington Post, Sept 17th 2001). This is a plane flying with an unidentified transponder code and is later assumed to be Flight 175.
  12. 9:03 It is, in fact, a drone flight that goes on to crash into the South Tower of the World Trade Center.
  13. 9:41 Flight 93, also in the midst of a staged hijacking or terror drill turns off its transponder and drops down low. A drone plane flying in through another hole in the primary radar coverage slips in to take its place on the radar.
  14. 10:03 Just before it is shot down, flight 93 is approaching Johnstown Airport. Coincidentally there was a meeting of the Local Emergency Planning Agency (LEPA) in the control tower of Johnstown Airport the day before (See The Johnstown "Terror Team" Cover-up). Was this plane supposed to be part of a terrorist attack drill? The drone, a white unmarked plane, is seen by numerous witnesses circling the crash site. Its presence is never properly explained
  15. 8:20 Flight 77 takes off from Dulles Airport (Washington D.C.)
  16. 8:39 Flight 77 makes a small detour to the north in an area with no primary radar coverage. At this point it meets the drone, which has flown down from the north through an area with no radar coverage.
  17. 8:51 Flight 77 makes its last radio contact. 8:56 It then switches off its transponder and disappears from ATC radar scopes. This is due to the fact that the radar tracking it at the time is a "Secondary only" radar site that depends on responses from the plane's transponder to give a location for the plane. The plane also turns at the weak centre-point between the two primary radars.
  18. 9:07 The Flytecomm video shows Flight 77 reappearing again and flying onwards to the west. The presence of this plane was confirmed by Col. Alan Scott at the 2nd hearing of the Commission (9-11 commission hearing, 23rd May 2003). It still appears to be in the air after 10:00.
  19. (Time not available) Once again the plane exploits vulnerabilities in the radar coverage to avoid being shot down as it enters restricted D.C. air space. Dulles controllers raise the alarm that an unidentified plane is approaching Washington at about 9:29 (Washington Post, Nov 3, 2001)
  20. 9:37 The official time that Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon
Notice the precision timing involved. We frequently see two or more events happening at the same time, like a magician distracting the audience.
  • 8:14 Flight 11 is hijacked; Flight 175 takes off.
  • 8:39 Flight 11 and Flight 175 nearly meet; Flight 77 deviates from its path.
  • 8:46/47 Flight 11 crashes; Flights 175 and 93 meet each other
  • 8:51 Flight 77 makes last radio contact; Flight 175 deviates from its assigned altitude
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What happened to the passengers?

Now the tricky part, if plane swapping took place, what happened to the real planes and the passengers? Unfortunately this is where we currently have to resort to educated speculation.

In Operation Northwoods we saw the original "plane swapping" scenario. In this case, the military planners at the pentagon were confident that they could fabricate passengers by creating non-existent IDs for the people on the plane. They were also noticeably confident that no-one would blow the whistle.

However, you can be sure that the 9-11 passengers are not on a desert island somewhere.

Perhaps a number of planes were shot down that day. This is where you get "layers within layers" of the cover-up. Picture this fictional officer speaking: "Listen guys, we accidentally shot down another plane that was conducting an emergency drill today. What really hit the North Tower was a jet that the hijackers chartered from Schenectady County Airport. You understand that the public don't need to know about this, right?"

There are many other possibilities, perhaps the passengers were killed before the plane landed at some remote location.
 
One of the drill practiced before 9/11, along side hijacked planes hitting the WTC and Pentagon, were shoot downs of passenger planes over the Atlantic. So that could be one possible scenario.
 
Ignatius Riley said:
CIA you say? So Gold, you hiring?
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No. Can I ask a question? Are you trying to refer people to team8 because you believe in the "Hologram/CGI" theory?
 
PhilosophyGenius said:
One of the drill practiced before 9/11, along side hijacked planes hitting the WTC and Pentagon, were shoot downs of passenger planes over the Atlantic. So that could be one possible scenario.
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Good catch!
 
Gold9472 said:
No. Can I ask a question? Are you trying to refer people to team8 because you believe in the "Hologram/CGI" theory?
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I honestly haven't really looked into it. But if you want to talk about it ...
 
Ignatius Riley said:
Good catch!
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Somebiguy posted a CNN story a long while back about saying that on 9/12/01, 3 planes were picked up on Canadian radar headed up towards the North Pole (or whatever that place is called) when all planes were grounded. So could be another possible scenario.
 
Gold9472 said:
Ooops... I said the "d" word.
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Team8plus.org is part of a disinformation campaign? Don't think so. Read over that timeline they've come up with. Some vital stuff there.
 
Boeing is a major player in the military industry complex, which you and I have both fingered as having benefited from 911. Would Boeing donate some old, outdated planes to be used as drones for the operation? Maybe United or American Airlines would surrender to the military an old passenger jet that had been stripped and could be used for hauling cargo, yeah, a cargo of explosives. Said jet resembles or is actually a Boeing passenger jumbo-jet.

This isn't much of a stretch at all really. The donations could be made unknowingly. Hell, who is to say that the military hasn't been sitting on said planes for years awaiting the exercises taking place on or around 9/11? Who is to say they don't right now still have a fleet of outdated passenger and military planes to be used for future exercises.
 
Ignatius Riley said:
Team8plus.org is part of a disinformation campaign? Don't think so. Read over that timeline they've come up with. Some vital stuff there.
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Nico Haupt and I don't get along. Nico Haupt has done more to hurt the movement than a lot of people. The idea that planes didn't strike the towers on 9/11 is absurd. Absolutely absurd. I won't even entertain it, nor will I link to their site because of it.
 
Gold9472 said:
Nico Haupt and I don't get along. Nico Haupt has done more to hurt the movement than a lot of people. The idea that planes didn't strike the towers on 9/11 is absurd. Absolutely absurd. I won't even entertain it, nor will I link to their site because of it.
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So you win. Planes hit the towers. Drones. Outdated models of Boeing passenger jumbo jets loaded with explosives were remote controlled into wtc 1 and 2. In the timeline I posted, Team8plus does not assert otherwise.

In fact, I think it argues that a plane of some form or fashion, a drone, perhaps an old military jet of some make, hit the Pentagon.
 
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